Some readers or not of DELEUZE and GUATTARI have some small talks in a TESLA electric car (this conversation is not sponsored by TELSA or by their opponents or competitors)

Honoré Balzac et Claude Simon



  • I remember that DELEUZE explained in that vidéo « L'abécédaire » that he disagree with SIGMUND FREUD on a representation of the inconscious as a theatre. For him, the human inconscious is a factory. He sayed he discussed about that with GUATTARI that was agree with that idea.
  • Well, we already talk about that. I remember having said that DELEUZE also explained that his father was an engineer in a factory building euh..french word is « dirigeable » (Cf. a previous post) and I found since that the father of GUATTARI was a director of a factory but didn't know what had producted that factory …
  • And what do you mean ?
  • Well, maybe we can say, that the inconscious is the place where the father is working …so the father, it means, the real father, the symbolic father, the imaginary father, the gouloulou father, blabla..
  • Oh, it's clever …
  • Well, don't know … But you see, our civilisation is written, so we herit of some mountains of texts dealing with all the human eternal problems : live, love, money, death, blabla and more or less we can see those texts written by our Grand Fathers on the stage of the theaters. Even for the painting, till the impressionnists, the picture was little fixed theater stage … more or less...
  • Well, didn't COURBET represent his atelier as a theater stage, or as the backstage of the theater of his painting, blabla ?
  • Yeah, maybe.. What i wanted to say is that in a traditionnal society where structurally nothing really move, the representation of the inconscious as a theater is plenty efficient. But i agree that with modernity that inerves the structures the representation of the human inconscious as a factory is good.
  • Well, i think with a democratic point of view, we can say that the inconscious has different form according to the story of the personn. My father studied theology for seven years, went on the first step of becoming a priest it means « vicaire » and then stopped became a professor of philosophy and french in sanatoriums and met my mother. It's just at the age of 18 years old that i learn that story. My inconscious is religion cause i didn't received any religious education but my father was structured by that ! My insconscious is a church !
  • Well, come on ...
  • I agree and I disagree. Your inconscious is like Protée, so It's a church because of your personnal story and also a factory cause you live in that period of human history and also a theater cause you're aware some humans had lived and think before you..
  • Yeah, that seems good..
  • OK, you're very clever the two of you but what can we say then about the desindustrialisation of the western society ? What can we say about the destruction and the dissapearance of that kind of human communauties that is a factory ?
  • Dissapearance of the collective inconscious ?
  • I've got an headache !
  • Ok, we stopped for a while and have a coffee.
  • And why don't we stop in a motel and make love ? I mean, have sex ?
  • You're ridiculous !
  • I just try...

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