Forum « are we in a simulation ? »

• so, can we begin this conversation around simulation ?
• When you talk about « simulation », the first thing that comes to my mind is « some women simulate having pleasure in sex ».
• And why do they do that ?
• Don't know ...euh … to please their partner .. to try if the pleasure on their side will come that way … to have something to do in the meanwhile … not to have problems with their partner, it means not to have to talk with him/her seriously about the fact they've got no pleasure in their sex relationship ...euh...
• This is a good start : so the simulation is about lying, someone lies to someone else and this creates a situation that is fake.
• But we're more or less very often in that kind of situation, I remember a time when i gradually discovered that more or less all the personns i knew just used me and thought i'm stupid, and well, this is the way the society works, don't know why, people wants to use others but don't want that is known, so that's the simulation. We simulate a pleasant society where nice people are on the top and actually there's also a lot of horryfing people on the top and an huge amount on the average level among the onewhowantstobeonthetop.
• Who are simulate a pleasant society ?
• Yeah, good question ..don't know... euh .. advertissements … euh … TV show … Media .. people working in the shops …
• Don't you think women simulate a pleasant society ?
• Oh, my god, i don't know, this is a sexist question, isn't it ? I can answer that in the traditionnal society, it could be possible that women were obliged to simulate a pleasant society in order to stay alive or in the game, i mean the social game … So now the situation has changed for women, they're equal to men but it's recent and there's always a time of transition that can be a confusion time. You can't change habits and customs in society just by an instant click.
• OK, So i'm in a simulation when some people lie to me and that i don't know they lie to me.
• This is a good definition.
• So who are the persons who lie to me ?
• What do you mean ? You ask me that question or you think this a good question for exploring this idea of simulation ..
• Up to you to know …
• Come on, « one never knows » … The french translation of that proverb is « only God knows about it » …
• HAHAHAHAHA !
• Ok, so now let's start from the idea of simulation as it's expressed in the movies MATTRIX.
• Those movies talked about SM people, don't you think ?
• No. i think it's just a transposition of that idea that there's too much bureaucracy in the urban life and so people are disconneted with real life.
• But this is not a new thing, it's because of the langage, we 're wrapped with langage and discourses, so, we need to unwrapped ourselves from that, be in touched with the real and try to find way and people with which you, i mean we can build up new wraps with langage and real... more or less ..
• I've got a headhache !
• That's the problem of that peculiar subject of our conversation …
• Let's try later ..
• OK. but with love..
• Is love a simulation ?
• Ohhhh ! See you somewhere sometimes...

(to be continued)

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